- Thailand
- Chiang Mai
About Program
SEE TEFL in Chiang Mai is one of the most respected TEFL training courses in Asia. They offer the standard 120-hour, onsite 4-week program with observed teaching practices at local schools.
- Licensed by the Thai Ministry of Education
- ISO 9001 certification ensures world-wide recognition of SEE’s TEFL program
- Endorsed as an 'Approved Training Center' for TEFL by TQUK so can offer an optional Ofqual regulated Level 5 certification
- 6 x 1-hour observed teaching practices with real students at a range of levels and ages in local schools
- Cultural awareness training (1 day)
- Survival Thai language instruction (8 hours)
- Free airport collection at any time of the day, or night
- Assistance to open a Thai bank account
- Assistance to purchase a Thai SIM card with a pre-paid data package
- Job guarantee
- Volunteer option
- Each course is limited to 20 trainees
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Diversity & Inclusion
LGBTQIA+ Support
Impact
Sustainability
Ethical Impact
Program Highlights
- Spend a month training in beautiful Chiang Mai.
- Training is onsite at our Ministry of Education licensed school.
- Includes 6 Observed Teaching Practices at a range of local schools.
- Job Guarantee and accommodation options.
- Make friends, enjoy our city and be trained effectively.
Response from SEE TEFL
Our response:
Yanasagaran enrolled on our Oct/Nov, 2022 4-week onsite course. This training course comes with job support, but placement isn't guaranteed. This is clearly stated on our website. This was also repeated in an email exchange between SEE and Yanasagaran two weeks before he enrolled.
September 23rd, 2022
SEE: "So much regarding finding work depends on the teacher: how they come across in an interview, smart appearance, polite and personable manner, flexibility etc. Hence, I can't say that any trainee will find work within a certain time frame"
Yanasagaran: "Will you be able to give me an assurance that SEE TEFL will be able to get me a job in Chiang Mai or anywhere upon completion of this course? By this, I do not mean arranging for a job interview with a prospective employer but gainful employment at a school within a reasonable time?
SEE: "We can support the job search but can't guarantee that schools will offer you work. We're confident that we can find you good leads for you and then it's your job to pass the interview if there is one"
Yanasagaran then enrolled on October 7th, 2022
He acknowledges in his own words that he alienated his fellow trainees: "The TEFL trainees were young Americans, British and one was Canadian and they stuck to their tribe.". Then, he insulted them: "They were backpackers traveling in Thailand looking for an English teaching job to pay off their travel expenses.". They were in fact the type of people who read this website to look for TEFL courses in order to teach abroad.
He acknowledges in his own words that he alienated our staff: "The new staffs were polite, but the older ones were obnoxious.". It's highly unlikely our staff were ever obnoxious to him. However, one staff member told me that she was scared of him.
He wrote:
"The name SEE TEFL appeared only on cloth banners and an inconspicuous small wall sign inside. There were no signboards outside the school."
Our response:
There is a large permanent and prominent sign above the entrance of our school with the name of our school license: ‘Effective Foreign Languages Chiang Mai (Lanna) School’. As you enter the school in front of you is a wall behind the reception desk with the brand names of the 3 programs we are licensed by the Thai Ministry of Education to offer under our school license: 'SEE TEFL', 'EFL learning Centre' and 'Effective Thai'.
He wrote:
"The receipts issued for payment of TEFL fees were not from SEE TEFL but bore the name ‘Effective Foreign Languages Chiang Mai (Lanna) School'".
Our response:
As explained above, SEE TEFL is a brand name. It operates under our school license which is named: ‘Effective Foreign Languages Chiang Mai (Lanna) School'. A brand name cannot issue receipts.
Our 'Accreditation' page clearly describes our licenses, accreditations, recognitions and endorsements including copies of all the relevant documents.
https://seetefl.com/accreditation/
You can actually see for yourself the entrance to our school and the school license sign during the first ten seconds of of our introduction to SEE TEFL video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqvgsU_OLaM
He wrote:
"They also hosted TEFL review platforms to advertise SEE TEFL"
Our response:
He doesn't name them because they don't exist. If anyone can find them, please email us and let us know.
He wrote:
".. and used google analytics to bring any search on CELTA or TEFL to their doorstep."
Our response:
He doesn't understand the terminology he is using. Search Engine Optimization (SEO) is used to optimize a website using keywords in order to direct relevant searches to a website. This is how all websites improve their organic search results. Google Analytics is a dashboard any business can use to analyse the visits to their website.
He wrote:
"The school had two businesses under one roof. The director managed SEE TEFL,, the other was EFL Learning Center, belonging to his wife. Emanating from EFL Learning Center are two phantom schools - Effective Foreign Languages Chiang Mai (Lanna) School and Effective Thai. They were just signboard names. Unlike China, it is easy for foreigners in Thailand to set up fronts while engaged in other ‘businesses’ using their ‘Thai wives’ as a backdoor."
Our response:
We actually have 3 brands/businesses under our roof. As explained earlier, SEE TEFL', 'EFL Learning Centre' and 'Effective Thai '. He doesn't know who owns them. John manages SEE TEFL and Dr Ying manages EFL Learning Centre and Effective Thai.
EFL Learning Centre focuses on teaching EFL to mainly Thai students in our school, via Zoom and at local businesses. EFL also manages EFL teaching positions at a wide range of formal schools in Chiang Mai. These jobs are offered to our SEE TEFL graduates.
He wrote:
"The joke of the day written behind SEE TEFL’s certificate is - ‘SEE’s TEFL curriculum is a part of Effective Foreign Languages Chiang Mai (Lanna) School run by DSS International Language Services Co., Ltd’."
Our response:
The only joke is that it is true, but he thinks it's false. DSS International Language Services Co., Ltd. is the operating company managing SEE TEFL and our school license.
He wrote:
"During my 26-day stint at SEE TEFL, I noticed all classroom partitions on the second floor belonging to EFL Learning Center were empty. The cleaner went in daily to wipe off the dust from the tables. The only classroom that was occupied was the one on the first floor next to his wife’s office."
Our response:
EFL classes tend to take place when students are not studying at school or working. IE evenings and weekends. TEFL training takes place Monday to Friday between 9am and 4pm. He wouldn't have seen classrooms busy with EFL students because he wasn't there when they studied. In addition, he took his SEE TEFL course during the pandemic when many of our EFL students were studying via Zoom.
He wrote:
"I used to see an old British man giving private tuition in the evenings to not more than three students on weekdays and during weekends, there were some students. But what were those unoccupied rooms upstairs for? Were they there to deceive the authorities that EFL Language Center was a bustling language school?"
Our response:
EFL Learning Centre is a bustling school. Check out its website and Facebook page:
https://efl.ac.th/
https://www.facebook.com/EFLChiangMai
He wrote:
"I perceived a sense of fear and insecurity at SEE TEFL and EFL Learning Center. There were CCTV cameras located everywhere."
Our response:
CCTV cameras are located outside the school to protect it from burglaries and inside the school to protect students from theft and inappropriate behaviour. It also allows our staff to know when a classroom is being used.
He wrote:
"...the director too, was never at his office downstairs but always upstairs either doing the same or sleeping."
Our response:
He didn't know where the director was and what he was doing when the director wasn't in his office.
He wrote:
"...The director's reasons were for us to ‘experience what is it like to acquire a second language’, a phenomenon linguists refer to as L1 Interference but I was of the opinion that he did this for two reasons. First, to cross-sell the Thai language course of its phantom school Effective Thai which hardly had more than one student. Second, it was no more but a smoke screen to delude the authorities from probing into SEE TEFL’s legitimacy."
Our response:
There's no cross selling, but we would love to know more about why having Thai language classes "delude the authorities from probing into SEE TEFL’s legitimacy."
He wrote:
"As I went through the training, I was disgusted by the fact that both SEE TEFL and its TEFL course were ‘endorsed’ and ‘recognized’ by both TQUK and Ofqual."
Our response:
This is an incorrect description of our relationship with TQUK and Ofqual. TQUK conducts education and course quality assessment. It's an Awarding Organization regulated by the UK Government Office of Qualifications and Examinations Regulation (Ofqual). TQUK awards our Level 5 course certificates.
He wrote:
"Upon receiving these assurances from him, enrolled for the 168 hours Ofqual Level 5 TEFL course for its Oct-Nov 2022 intake." and "The TEFL course at SEE TEFL, Chiang Mai was horseplay. The ‘program content’ stated behind the TEFL certificate is no more than an exaggeration of what actually took place during the training."
Our response:
The 168 hours Ofqual Level 5 TEFL course he mentions is accredited by TQUK. The certificate is also awarded by TQUK which is regulated by Ofqual. It isn't awarded by SEE TEFL. The content listed on that certificate matches the content of this program. We need to forward a trainee's course work to TQUK in order to claim a certificate. They will only issue their certificate if the course work covers the curriculum for this program.
He wrote:
"Upon completion of the course, on the second last day, I assumed that participants received different levels of support. This was SEE TEFL’s ‘job guarantee’ - an open secret. I received a cold shoulder and was ignored for reasons best known to them."
Our response:
He didn't attend the last day of training which included the finding work workshop. For us to support him finding work, he needs to submit the work preferences form given to trainees on the last day of training. He was also asked to forward his CV in order for us to support his job search. We cannot present him to schools without a CV. 2 months later he submitted the job preferences form. 5 months later I received his CV.
He wrote:
"Two months after the course, I went to SEE TEFL to collect my TQUK certificate which had just arrived. A lady at the reception telephoned someone upstairs informing my arrival. From her countenance, I sensed that something was not right. She hung down the phone and went behind to call the lead trainer, who refused to give the certificates without my filling a feedback form for their ISO certification. I found the practice of obtaining coerced feedback from its trainees on the condition of releasing their certificates rather strange and unusual "
Our response:
Our Thai female staff was/is scared of Yanasagaran. As part of the ISO Quality Management System, we are required to produce a work preference form and feedback form from each trainee. If we cannot produce them when we are audited by Bureau Veritas, we may not pass the audit. Our lead trainer requested those forms from him. The TQUK certificate is not issued by us. If we didn't forward it to a trainee after claiming it from TQUK, we would be penalized. The issuance of certificates is never conditional on completing those two forms.
He wrote:
"It has been over five (5) months since I ‘graduated’ from SEE TEFL, Chiang Mai. I sent my second updated resume over three weeks ago to SEE TEFL and EFL Learning Center. Unlike prior to enrolling for the course, where email responses were within 12 hours, I received no response from the director. Three days later, I called him to ask if he had received my email and the attached resume. He told me that he did but does ‘not handle the employment part’ and that ‘the girls at the reception normally do that and not to send him any emails about employment’. The following day, I received an email from EFL Learning Center. It had no salutations, it was unsigned, and had only one sentence - ‘Thank you for your email.’ It was obvious to me that the person who had sent me that email wished to remain anonymous for reasons best known to her"
Our response:
I received a short email from him on April 13th: "I just returned from Bangkok a couple of days ago after finishing a teacher training course. Please find attached resume and let me know if you have anything suitable." Included was a Google link to his CV. The link expired a few days later. April 13th is the first day of the Songkran Holiday in Thailand. Schools and businesses are closed for up to one week starting on this day. Our staff were on holiday and there was no way to forward his CV to schools as they were also closed. He was fully aware that there would be no staff to process his CV at this time. Just over a week after April 13th he started writing negative reviews about us such as this one.
He had also sent an anonymous message via WhatsApp to our lead trainer on Christmas Day, 2022. The content was offensive. Our trainer managed to trace the message back to Yanasagaran via the phone number.
He wrote:
"I wrote to the University of York recently making inquiries on the prestigious Trinity CertTESOL. The Associate Lecturer in English Language Teacher Training from the Department of Language and Linguistic Science responded to my queries by saying -‘In truth, I don't know what you mean by "the TEFL" (i.e. who organises and runs this course). However, I do recognise the CELTA as the Certificate in English Language Teaching to Adults, as accredited by the University of Cambridge."
Our response:
The University of Cambridge doesn't accredit or offer TEFL courses. He has confused Cambridge English, the awarding body for CELTA courses, with the University.
John Quinn
SEETEFL Director